i struggle with this a little bit. to preface, i understand the catastrophic nature of non-consensual and consensual pornography being shared online over and over with no recourse. what informs my take is that most people reading an interview with lorde as the cover star understand that as well. i too bristled at lorde voluntarily bringing up that she sought out and viewed anderson’s sex tape and then (i assume) had spanos include that bit in the final piece.
my thing is: what happened to saying “yikes” or “gross” and moving on! what is with relitigating feelings almost EVERYONE in our circles can agree on just so you can dunk on an artist about something that has no bearing on their music. this discourse is tired and unproductive and drawing more attention to the amorality of viewing anderson’s sex tape over something soooo innocuous seems counterproductive if the whole point is not glamorizing the tape’s existence.
all of this to say, im happy spanos left this unflattering part of the interview in. lorde earlier on in the piece acknowledges her privilege as a “wealthy, cis, white woman” and then IMMEDIATELY AFTER discusses her experience viewing the tape. it’s a clever juxtaposition ab women in power contributing to cycles of harm and being callous in the process. it’s also not lost on me that the victim in this whole situation is also a wealthy, cis, white woman.
overall, i think we’re being a bit sensitive and lorde grinds people’s gears because they’re annoyed at her but too over-invested in her and her life to confront why. thus, the using anything that showcases her as a human (who does questionable shit online like the rest of us) to tear her down publicly. if we assess the degree of harm lorde has truly done here, i just think we have bigger fish to fry.
NOTE: I love that not everything feels like something else
ALSO NOTE: we always have bigger fish to fry and tho I do not have a pushback for you I advocate for a “yikes” and “gross” every now and then!
ALSO ALSO NOTE: I fully stand by knowing as little as possible about the personal lives of the artists I see, listen to or come across. Call that ignorant or unaware and I might agree but it’s a pretty great way I would say!
THANK U RHEA 1) agreed "not everything feels like something else" is such a calming mantra for me now 2) yess online controversy is never that deep, people get so caught up when celebs have gross moments 3) even though i love knowing ab artist's personal lives, i think it takes a lot of work to remember that that's a kind of privilege and shouldn't be the default or solely how i judge someone's art!!
i struggle with this a little bit. to preface, i understand the catastrophic nature of non-consensual and consensual pornography being shared online over and over with no recourse. what informs my take is that most people reading an interview with lorde as the cover star understand that as well. i too bristled at lorde voluntarily bringing up that she sought out and viewed anderson’s sex tape and then (i assume) had spanos include that bit in the final piece.
my thing is: what happened to saying “yikes” or “gross” and moving on! what is with relitigating feelings almost EVERYONE in our circles can agree on just so you can dunk on an artist about something that has no bearing on their music. this discourse is tired and unproductive and drawing more attention to the amorality of viewing anderson’s sex tape over something soooo innocuous seems counterproductive if the whole point is not glamorizing the tape’s existence.
all of this to say, im happy spanos left this unflattering part of the interview in. lorde earlier on in the piece acknowledges her privilege as a “wealthy, cis, white woman” and then IMMEDIATELY AFTER discusses her experience viewing the tape. it’s a clever juxtaposition ab women in power contributing to cycles of harm and being callous in the process. it’s also not lost on me that the victim in this whole situation is also a wealthy, cis, white woman.
overall, i think we’re being a bit sensitive and lorde grinds people’s gears because they’re annoyed at her but too over-invested in her and her life to confront why. thus, the using anything that showcases her as a human (who does questionable shit online like the rest of us) to tear her down publicly. if we assess the degree of harm lorde has truly done here, i just think we have bigger fish to fry.
PUSH BACK ON ME I’LL PROBABLY AGREE !
Another perfect take
you're too kind!!
The way you write amazes me every damn time!
NOTE: I love that not everything feels like something else
ALSO NOTE: we always have bigger fish to fry and tho I do not have a pushback for you I advocate for a “yikes” and “gross” every now and then!
ALSO ALSO NOTE: I fully stand by knowing as little as possible about the personal lives of the artists I see, listen to or come across. Call that ignorant or unaware and I might agree but it’s a pretty great way I would say!
THANK U RHEA 1) agreed "not everything feels like something else" is such a calming mantra for me now 2) yess online controversy is never that deep, people get so caught up when celebs have gross moments 3) even though i love knowing ab artist's personal lives, i think it takes a lot of work to remember that that's a kind of privilege and shouldn't be the default or solely how i judge someone's art!!